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WVU students should be closer to the action

By Brad Joyal

Published: Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Updated: Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Penn State has Beaver Stadium nestled in Happy Valley.

There's Death Valley, The Swamp and Rocky Top in the SEC, too.

Notre Dame, Ohio State and Texas have stadiums that each bring a significant factor to the table in the college football landscape that can't be found inside Milan Puskar Stadium in Morgantown – a student section that makes an impact on games.

Sure, Morgantown is a great place to be on game days in the fall. This year will be no different.

But that atmosphere does not translate to the intensity inside the stadium. Comparing West Virginia's student section to the rest of the elite is like comparing Natty Lite to Stella Artois – it doesn't come close.

While West Virginia students show up in large numbers to watch the games, they make little impact on the game. But, it's not necessarily the students' fault, because the majority of them are sitting in the upper deck of the stadium, not down at field level.

With new Athletic Director Oliver Luck taking over, the topic of relocating the student section, one that will not change in 2010 from previous years, will hopefully be something worth discussing.

If anything has become clear through all this conference expansion talk, college football is about one thing: money.

One of the obvious reasons the student section is primarily in the upper deck of Milan Puskar Stadium is because the University can sell more primetime seating closer to the field.

The best student sections throughout college football are down closer to the field, where they can make noise and give the home team an advantage.

At Penn State, the student section which holds 21,000 rabid students, starts at field level and wraps from the goals posts to nearly midfield.

Other schools like Auburn, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC and nearly all SEC schools also have a predominately lower student section.

In the Big East Conference, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida and Syracuse all place students near the field.

Another common occurrence around the country is the location of the band, usually plotted right in the middle or close to the student section.

At WVU, the band is located behind the goal posts near Touchdown Terrace, not close enough to the student section to have the students involved with it.

Growing up in Massachusetts, I spent my childhood as a season ticket holder at Boston College in Chestnut Hill. The student section at BC is considerably smaller than WVU's but closer to the field and next to the band. Students get involved with the band whether singing "Build Me Up Buttercup" or "Sweet Caroline."

Because the section is closer to the field, it can make some serious noise.

Some feel students haven't picked up their end of the deal by being committed to attending games for a full four quarters. It has become all too familiar with ESPN broadcasts to see a half-filled student section. During last year's Gold Rush against Colorado, the broadcast team circled a huge empty section in the WVU student section making a joke of how empty the seats were.

It wasn't a pretty or ideal display of loyalty from the students, but can you really blame them?

Students want to be next to the action, where they know they can make an impact.

At some point it needs to be about the students who love WVU as much as the others who fill up the stadium.

Luck is in position to make a splash and make the atmosphere in Morgantown even better.

Not only would it help the students and make their
college experience better, it would help the team.

When Boston College's much smaller student section makes more of an impact on football games than that of WVU's larger section, something isn't right.

Hopefully Luck does the right thing in putting the students down low next to the band like the rest of the elite schools in the future. If nothing less, Luck and his administration should discuss the proposition.
 

Comments

14 comments
1980 Grad
Thu Jul 15 2010 16:18
Have we finally learned not to throw things at the opposing players?

If so, move 'em down to the first level.

Anonymous
Wed Jul 14 2010 19:50
Have you ever sat in the student section at a Mountaineer Game, obviously not if you wrote this article. The reason WVU does not charge students for season tix is because they offer the most student tix possible, compare number of tix available at these schools you mentioned. Then report back what you find.

Also, as a proud Alumni and former Mountaineer Maniac, an article like this shows the downfall of the current student section from the prestigious feared section it used to be. This author probably sits down the entire game too.

Anonymous
Tue Jul 13 2010 20:41
if the students get any lower level seats they would be in the south endzone. the seats between the 20 and 50 yard lines lower and upper deck bring in $700 a seat.
Nice Try Numbnutz
Tue Jul 13 2010 17:38
Ps singing "Build Me Up Buttercup" at a football game is HOMO as it comes...I don't want that here. There is a reason nobody is scared to play in Chenut Hill. Believe it or not away teams hate playing here.
I Love Becky
Tue Jul 13 2010 17:36
You've been to what 5-6 games in your life???? It's out of staters who show up to the game a quarter late and leave a quarter early once they find out which of your friends are going to Shooters for dollar pitchers. Do a first come first serve policy or charge a smal amount of money. Believe me, no student that would leave early would pay $10 a game. Not to sound sexist either, but I know girls that show up for one quarter tops who don't even watch the game. They wouldn't pay either. It's way to easy to get a ticket and as long as you show up to get your ticket scanned there is no penalty. I'd rather have 8,000 lower level student seats costing $20 a game.
Anonymous
Tue Jul 13 2010 17:03
Boston College? What a joke.
Anonymous
Tue Jul 13 2010 17:02
Not loud and into the game huh? Thats why Mountaineer Field is rated as one of the toughest places to play. BC????? Really??????????? How many games have you actually been to?

And no, Im sorry, our student section does not sing Build Me Up Buttercup

Anonymous
Tue Jul 13 2010 16:53
Is this article supposed to be taken seriously? Maybe it's the students fault if you think BC's student section is better. The student section has always been in the upper deck and part of the lower level. You guys should just show up for the games before they start instead of complaining about upper deck seats that cost season ticket holders $700. Go Mounties, Class of '94 when the student section was loud as hell!!!
WVU '04
Tue Jul 13 2010 11:02
Stop throwing stuff on the field and maybe they'll move you closer....
Anonymous
Sat Jul 10 2010 16:01
Too many out of state students who show up only to confirm Saturday night party plans. Many SEC schools charge students a small amount at the beginning of the fall semester for season tickets. This would help encourage attendance.
Anonymous
Thu Jul 8 2010 09:04
"Start charging students $140 for season tickets, as little as $20 for each home game may be enough for students to have incentive to fill their seat. Yea, yea, I know a small portion of students' athletic fee goes to pay for the seats but it hardly compares to the actual value of the seat."

Then, you better cut the student athletics fee out. Not gonna happen.

Much of the reason the student section is empty is because students claim tickets and never use them, and the students that might actually stay never get a ticket to begin with.

Better solution: Charge students some amount of money when they claim their ticket (10, 15, 20 bucks)... then, if you attend the game, you get your money back. If you don't use the ticket, you forfeit the money because someone else could have used the ticket. After losing your money a couple times, you will be much less likely to claim a ticket you aren't going to use.

Ivan666
Wed Jul 7 2010 14:56
Start charging students $140 for season tickets, as little as $20 for each home game may be enough for students to have incentive to fill their seat. Yea, yea, I know a small portion of students' athletic fee goes to pay for the seats but it hardly compares to the actual value of the seat.

Until students can show a desire and actually fill the seats and have a demand for more than all this talk about being like the "big-time" schools is just flotsam on the sea of the blogosphere. Put your butt where your mouth is!

TNMountaineer
Wed Jul 7 2010 12:52
In my opinion, there are two issues regarding seating at Mountaineer Field (and I don't care how much money Puskar donated). The original layout of the stadium was poorly conceived. Why; because it was not designed to be expanded. It was designed to be "sold" to the state legislature to get the money to build it.
Secondly, most other stadiums have suites along the top of the upper decks usually purchased by alums and corporate sponsors. Instead of putting the money in the Touchdown Terrace, it should have been used to put suites across the top of the east side of the stadium similar to the press box on the west side. I am not saying WVU needs a stadium like the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, but it is a great venue to watch a football game. It is easy to see UTK has planned every expansion with further expansion in mind. Maybe Oliver Luck will have more foresight than past administrations have had.
Anonymous
Wed Jul 7 2010 11:14
"While West Virginia students show up in large numbers to watch the games, they make little impact on the game. But, it’s not necessarily the students’ fault, because the majority of them are sitting in the upper deck of the stadium, not down at field level."

Falsehoods and spin, oh my. The student body have done an impressive job of dressing as empty bleachers for most of the home games in the last five years. The arrive late-leave early ethic has infected a huge number of students - they show up midway through the 2nd qtr and if they return from halftime at all, leave midway through the 3rd qtr.

It's easy to blame the problem on seating location but students at many big-time football schools don't always get prime seats due to demand for ANY seats from alumni who are prepared to pay and 'donate' dearly.

90% of the information we get about our surroundings is visual. If the students don't show up then all the talk about 'impact' (i.e. noise) is just that.

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