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Time to set record straight on Confederate Flag ban

Published: Thursday, October 21, 2010

Updated: Thursday, October 21, 2010 21:10

At least I know you're reading.

Last week, I tackled a somewhat sensitive issue in this area of the nation, the use of the Confederate flag. The point was that the flag should be banned by West Virginia University and its employees.

Putting it lightly, some people disagreed.

After many posts on The Daily Athenaeum's website, a few tweets and two response columns that all essentially attempted to take me to task, I have decided to continue with this constructive dialogue.

In listening to the arguments of those who disagree; I have essentially found three lines of logic – fringe players who are truly ignorant of any relevant information on the topic, people who argue that the Civil War wasn't about slavery and people who are making the "free speech" argument.

While the first two are absurd, the last is a popular argument that is incomplete and lacking in any basis in reality.

First, some people are just fringe players.

These people are truly intolerant and ignorant. Their opinions are theirs to have, but when attempting to be reasonable and level-headed, there is no sense bothering with them.

For example, I was sent a Facebook message by one of these people over the course of the last week.

His message read, "The rebel flag should not be banned from the University. Stop trying to make everything politically correct. Why don't you push for the gays to stop flying their rainbow flag?"

After an initial chuckle, I realized that a great deal of people actually would find that a valid argument.

It's not. At all.

The gay community, to the best of my knowledge, has never enslaved an entire race of people. They didn't treat other humans as sub-human pieces of property, either.

In fact, they are generally persecuted today by many of the same people who proudly wave the Confederate flag.

So, putting those two flags on the same level is somewhere below logical.

Second, there have been a few people that have made the argument that the Civil War was not about slavery.

I understand the argument. States rights, different cultures and economic bases were the underlying issues.

However, what one issue encompassed all three?

Slavery.

The states wanted individual states rights in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

The culture of the South was based around the idea that African-Americans were sub-humans who didn't have rights. They were property.

Finally, the South wanted to protect an economy that made slaves do all the work, while land owners reaped all the benefits.

People who are naive enough to actually believe the Civil War wasn't about slavery have been listening to Rush Limbaugh so long their brains and mouth, just like his, are no longer connected.

The final argument I heard is by far the most common and legitimate. Banning of the Confederate flag by the University is in violation of our freedom of speech.

However, for far too long people have had a fundamental misunderstanding of freedom of speech.

It is true that people have a constitutional right to say whatever they want. But that is only half the story.

With any freedom or right, also comes personal responsibility. If a person is allowed to say whatever he or she want, they must also understand there are consequences for those words or actions.

If a resident assistant displays the Confederate flag on his or her door, the University has a separate right to decide whether or not you are an acceptable employee.

A person has many qualified rights of speech.

If a person wanted to yell "fire" in a theater, he or she could. However, that person must also understand that saying that is going to put a great deal of people in danger, and they are probably going to be arrested for that action.

So, to all those who insist on waving the Confederate flag, I encourage you to do so proudly if that is what you truly believe in.

That is your right.

However, if you work for this University, you must realize that your freedom of speech is not a magical phrase that keeps you from being punished.

That flag is divisive.

It alienates students.

It has no business within this University. Period.

 

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17 comments

Anonymous
Wed Nov 3 2010 11:22
I have one comment why is there a BET channel or a Black voices link for AOL...Doesn't this and affirmative action discriminate... I find all of these things and that flag stepping over the bounds in different ways if ones accepted then the other should be...If the univeristy bans one then they should ban all.
Southern Pride
Wed Oct 27 2010 11:35
THis flag is a symbol of the Southern States. I am from this area and I believe this flag represents the area as a whole, not the ideals of certain individuals. Yes one could argue that it is tied to slavery but I would add that the old stars and stripes may be negative to those who view capatilism and war mongering as the main focus of the U.S. So leave symbols alone. It is free speech. If you dont like it dont display it. But dont take away ones right to believe in what they consider right. There are alot of bigots in the world. Even on both ends of the spectrum.
C.W. Roden
Sat Oct 23 2010 12:37
"I prefer the idiots and bigots of the world to announce themselves loudly,"

Well Anonymous, you have certainly done a good job of that pal. LOL!

Anonymous
Sat Oct 23 2010 12:20
A bigot : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

I think this describes many posters here very well..... Not the flag wavers.

Anonymous
Sat Oct 23 2010 09:05
I prefer not to ban the confederate flag for the simple fact that it is folly to silence your enemies. I prefer the idiots and bigots of the world to announce themselves loudly, allowing me time to be ready. To take away that advantage is to suffer death in the warm embrace of a perceived friend.

N.W. Barker

Anonymous
Sat Oct 23 2010 04:37
Rednecks and their idiotic views will die off eventually. Every generation has less and less of these morons.

It'll just take some time and through better education issues like these will just work themselves out.

Modern day evolution.

Alum07
Fri Oct 22 2010 15:00
You sir are a bigot. I do not care about whether the flag flies or not. It is up to every individual to draw their own perspective on the meaning of any symbol, but any person who wants to be treated like a true journalist should not make statements like the one below from your article above.

Quote: "People who are naive enough to actually believe the Civil War wasn't about slavery have been listening to Rush Limbaugh so long their brains and mouth, just like his, are no longer connected."

Intolerance by the media is just as offensive as intolerance by others.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 12:21
"rather, I'm NOT saying they're not true americans, but are seen as losers."

Why would you say that if that's not what you were saying? That's pretty odd.

At any rate.. you are in the wrong state and at the wrong school if you think rednecks are losers. Goto the Blue Lot Saturday morning and say that.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 12:02
rather, I'm NOT saying they're not true americans, but are seen as losers.

Stupid stubby fingers.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 12:01
"Are you saying rednecks aren't true Americans? What a bigot."

No, I'm saying they're not true americans (whatever that means), I'm just saying that they're perceived to be losers.

Go take your fake outrage somewhere else.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 11:56
A college is suppost to a place for the free exchange of Ideas not a place that bans the ones someone doesn't like.
Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 10:59
Unfortunately selective banning of any symbol leads to more selective banning determined by someone who should not be offered that power. US society exists because of it's freedom. Now we have individuals who seek to ban what they choose as distastful while scolding others who may ban somehing else as individuals who are against freedom of expression. I find the black panther flag offensive, but see it every day on the way to work (in NJ) I regularly see the Mexican flag flown above the US flag in the community I pass through, Offensive, you bet but try to remove it and expect an arrest or a beating. The war of Northern agression ended 145 years ago, leave it alone, recognize the symbol has historical significance and move on. Banning it serves no one other than supressing something that was a part of life then.
Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 10:13
"Just remember, for every person who sees your rebel flag and thinks "there's a true American", there are five people who simply think "redneck" and walk on."

Are you saying rednecks aren't true Americans? What a bigot.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 09:28
The stars and bars as portrayed today have nothing whatsoever to do with the civil war, and to pretend otherwise is foolish. It's a 20th century symbol of protest against the civil rights movement, multiculturalism, and progressive politics. Just look at the company you keep when you display the "rebel" flag. I'm not trashing the poor, or "Southrons" in general, but when a symbol has been completely co-opted by klansmen, white supremacists, and neo-nazi's, trying to defend it by tenuous ties to historical artifacts is disingenuous.

Just remember, for every person who sees your rebel flag and thinks "there's a true American", there are five people who simply think "redneck" and walk on.

Anonymous
Fri Oct 22 2010 07:34
The Confederate Battle Flag With The "St Andrews Cross" was not the only, but She was the most known and used late in that great war. She is the most, hated, debated, misrepresented and beloved of all Confederate symbols. She has been tarnished by groups as the, naacp "by way of slander", kkk, aryan nation, skinheads, neo nazi, white supremacy clowns...Just to name a few. She was not a national flag, nor was She a politician's flag, and most defiantly not a flag of hate!..."She was a soldier's flag" a banner of courage, honour and a call to duty. She was a rallying point for battling warriors. Many died to keep Her safe and out of enemy hands, this Flag was stained with the blood of our Southron patriots. Last, and most important...SHE WAS AN AMERICAN FLAG!!

As Southron, we owe it to ourselves and noble ancestry to protect Her and hold Her in reverence. We must stand up to those that slander Her, for that slander is slander toward us and our past. We must never let our past be removed from our future.
~ T. R. Aaron

BeauEvil
Fri Oct 22 2010 00:46
"People who are naive enough to actually believe that the Civil War... [WAS about slavery have been duped into this view by the victors of that totally unneccessary war.] Slavery was NOT a primary trait of Dixie. The "capitol of American slavery" for over two CENTURIES was New York! Slavery had existed, everywhere, since the earliest history. The end of human slavery was a novel, new idea, driven into extinction by the Industrial Revolution. Slavery (mostly) ended, worldwide, by 1900 WITHOUT such a huge war. Lincoln, himself, said that if he could end the war without ending slavery, he would, while the South even suggested ending slavery BEFORE war's end. Please, PLEASE research H.K. Edkerton before you embarq on another ignorant, "constructive dialogue". A university SHOULD be the site of truth and knowledge, NOT ignorant, knee-jerk reactions.
Anonymous
Thu Oct 21 2010 22:57
"People who are naive enough to actually believe the Civil War wasn't about slavery have been listening to Rush Limbaugh so long their brains and mouth, just like his, are no longer connected."

Slavery was one of many things the Civil War was fought over. One of the major issues for sure, but you are distorting the facts if you claim that slavery was the singular cause or focal point of the Civil War.

"That flag is divisive.
It alienates students.
It has no business within this University. Period."

One could argue that a great many things one would see at the University is divisive and alienates students. These would include political campaign material, flags of any country, certain forms of clothing, etc. Do you want ALL of these things banned as well? Or are you a hypocrite?

You see... your argument might make sense if you don't think about all of the implications of what you propose. It leads us down a very dangerous path where anything not deemed "politically correct" is banned, which would result in nothing being displayed.





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